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Monday, May 25, 2015

Futuron: 6885 Crater Crawler Alternate~4

And we come to the end of 6885's alternates... It isn't very good...


















behold the misshapen monstrosity!

















I really don't like this spacecraft, its foundation is a big plate which pushes all the design upward and creates a very squared off flat footed shape.  It makes me think of a snail with its eyes on the fences, its big shell in back...and some cannons on the side?














This isn't bad, the windscreen assembly hinge and attachments seem proper, if under powered.


The whole main body is flat and empty inside the fenced in area.  This design may be focused on showing kids what can be done with the big plate outside of the base alternate but it doesn't work.  


Looking through the windscreen is optimal, but apparently reclining and reading your dials is an optional feature.  


















So, thoroughly unimpressed as I am, I'm going to break off what I like about this model and make something better with the leftovers.

I really like the guns, and the cockpit /rear has potential, so I left those alone.  I pulled the nose and shifted some bits around, and made a central light on the front.


In space, there's no friction to steer against, so I added on some side thrusters for adjusting the ships angle of approach and trajectory.  I followed up with a few more blue highlights to keep the design reasonably consistent; if not with Futuron, then with the model itself.


The cockpit is much smaller and close feeling.  It isn't as open to the elements.



















And the pilot can see out into that nebulous vastness of space.  Back to work you.  Go bag some Blacktron baddies.
















Which Crater Crawler alternate is your favorite?

Scooter Base

Racecar

Transport

Spaceship














Sound off in the comments.

Until Next time,

Cure-all Pill

Saturday, May 16, 2015

Futuron 6885 Crater Crawler ~ Alternate 2

This alternate was an insane challenge as I managed to finish it in about a dozen ways, until I found one I was happy with.  I kept going until the chassis was secure and proportions looked correct.



















I don't promise to have gotten it exact, but in a picture like this that may not be possible.  The point made is not that this must be done one way, but that I found many roads which lead to something approaching the finished product.  When I realized how many variations I could do with just 98 pieces I began to realize how much thought must have been put into this one design.











What can I say about the car?  Dang son, it looks good!















From a company product point of view it's easy to feel why this vehicle didn't become a set in Futuron's lineup. It has precious few grip points, and the window tips up at slight hand pressure, the wheels easily lose traction when the hand pressure is too feathery.  The window can be a grip point, but then you will have fingerprints all over it, and slight lift will open the cockpit.  Best bet...find a slope and let it roll away.












Given my difficulty finessing this thing I'll reveal the secrets behind those tyres.  I utilized zoom in my picture viewer...but even that wasn't able to get me much of a view of anything.   Ready? grab your megaphones and woila!















I puzzled this out for over an hour and had a few other methods which went to the cutting room floor because things like the upper headlight cluster had incorrect proportions.

Even so, the chassis is the one area I'm feeling dicey on...but everything's secured...car's not crumbling.  I can't see it anyway, so I selected to let it be and added the tapered plate for aesthetic bulking up and sleekness.

Drivers start your engines! Today marks the beginning of this rotation's galaxy famous Saturn 5000 Titan Dakar.























It looks like a crater crashing formula inspired dune buggy.


Check out this boss exhaust system as it drives away... Man I just love the transparent canopy in this set...my younger self wanted corner space windows so bad...the older self obliged.  Younger self was NOT wrong!  



















So far this is the coolest box derived alternate I've had the pleasure of deducing from a Futuron set, but there are many more waiting to be challenged; with that I end this second alternative review of 6885 Crater Crawler.

Until next time,

The Cure-all Pill

Thursday, May 14, 2015

Futuron 6885: Crater Crawler~Alternate

We put the Saturn in Main Base.









I ran into a special 'problem' with 6885's alternates.  The designers apparently had the spare bits on hand and they used them... guess what I didn't get when I imported this thing?  And no one's inventoried the spare bits 6885 comes with...so I almost don't trust that I won't miss something making these alternates.


















After my initial confusion I peeroned the list of space sets with the tiny blue dot and pulled from the one set I had readily available to provide the spare bit.  harumph!











Did you know this blue dot was only released in one set each year from 1987-1991?  It was a pretty special bit until '92.

1987













1988












1989 spare obtained here


















1990













1991













From 92 onward the blue dot received a more regular appearance... and now it's downright common, but by gum that was an itty bitty bother.

First off the box alternate line is this scooter launch base.

This is a small sample of what Crater Crawler can offer the collection...prefab corner walls and prefab rounded windows, it's a mini base wrapped over a truck bed.

The robot seems to be waiting for something...

Monotonous robot voice--Weee!--  Take over?  Pfft, more like, cause minor inconveniences.  






















"I knew I shouldn't have set it to fun mode!"

monotonous robot voice--Silly astronaut... pursuit is futile... Ha ha. Ha ha.--
















"I'll reprogram this little guy to be boring and boom bodda bing.  That oughta resolve our differences."

Monotonous Robot--01 11 00, access command line interface...press any button to continue.








Scooters come in multiple flavors and colors...Each scooter has one hand operated booster.  Not the most balanced design, but for short trips they seem acceptable.












Longer trips are better aboard this little speeder.
That sums it up.  I like this little base.  It has a fair bit of play value to it on its own and the idea can easily be expanded upon.

Until next time

The Cure-all Pill

Wednesday, January 8, 2014

Futuron: Box Retrospective II


Hope you're all warm...I went to my parents home for Christmas and New Years and guess what...I've been stuck here for the past three days.  This is the primary reason for no new posts.  But I am not to be outdone by a lack of a camera, and the lack of an old Lego set.   

Today I have another retrospective on Box art and alternate models.  This is supposed to be the easy part of my blog, but some of these box alternates are nigh unto impossible to find with a simple Google search. 

Here goes.
From Brickipedia
http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/1616_Space_Combi-Pack
Astro Dart and Lunar MPV Vehicle
Front and Rear













I apologize for the small size, this was the only image I could find.  I hoped to find the images from the backs of the set boxes, but the packaging was glued to the yellow sheet, and as Paul Mison has observed from a box of 1621 the back of the box is blank.

Small as the images are, I can't comment as to their creativity, but I do want to point out the use of the black 4x6 plate on the trailer middle right.  What is going on there???

Interestingly, it appears the alternates were restricted to parts from each specific set to each specific alternate.  This may be fortunate for us, but i think it would have been more interesting if the big backing had combined builds, and these could have appeared on the backs of each set in question. 

Brickipedia
http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/6828_Twin-Winged_Spoiler
Twin Wing Spoiler front

















Moctagon Jones
Twin Wing Spoiler Rear
http://www.flickr.com/photos/moctagon/5392020006/in/set-72157625734508167
For all its faults Twin Wing Spoiler has a lot of colorful pieces and printed tiles.  Unsurprisingly the back alternate models are vivid.  I think the pair of robots are quirky, and would fit alongside the droid from 1621 Lunar MPV Vehicle. Other than that nothing here inspires, but as a showcase for the parts, this is a nice display.











Phil8248
---From eBay listing, no link provided as it will cease to exist soon.
Orion II Hyperspace

This one was interesting to me, because there is a special offer on the cover; which I found in one eBay listing, and nowhere else.  So, as you can see, here is a special offer for a free Lego Space watch; that's cool.  My Mother always required us to have analog watches as kids, but I could see myself being very excited about a watch like that as a kid. 

















Recently Paul Mison, Blogger at Welcome to the Futuron, offered his help in tracking down the back image for 6893 Galactic Starship, aka, SpaceProbe Transporter, aka, Orion II Hyperspace

Tada!  As a model Orion II Hyperspace is a great design with excellent features, and it has some great parts in the mix, but the balance of plates to bricks, and the types of bricks put some odd restraints on construction options.  The bottom left model seems most successful at being interesting, but top right seems clunky, and bottom right sort of reminds me of 6835 Spyrius Saucer Scout.  In general Futuron sets have been a mixed bag of parts; and having worked with the parts in this set extensively, I can safely add that this set isn't going to change my opinion.














Thank you for your help Mr. Mison.  I'm Grateful for your contribution.

I tried to find more information about the Lego Space Watch as well, but alas, it's also proving difficult to find anything about it.

AirMauro
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=350939
Hovercraft Front

















AirMauro
Hovercraft rear

I have to say, some of these alternates look very cool.  I especially like the wraparound window in the large image.  There's a ground based Laser cannon, a robot, and a typical spacecraft that could have succeeded as a set itself by my estimation.  Overall the robot seems underdeveloped, and the laser turret is a bit too thin, but give it a few more pieces from the collection and Hovercraft looks like a strong base from which to get started on some cool projects. 

















AirMauro and Dark
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=351654
Crater Crawler Front

















AirMauro and Dark
Crater Crawler Rear

Crater Crawler's alternates wouldn't be complete without a little space station.  That is one of the coolest things about Crater Crawler, it is only a few parts away from having everything necessary for a compelling Space Lab.  Beyond that the alternates include two rovers, which are overall successful, a scooter which is serviceable, two droids, a computer terminal, and a spacecraft.  The Spacecraft struggles with a selection of parts that aren't favorable to such a construction, note the lack of wings, and the forced misuse of the central hinge as it creates asymmetry where it fails to make sense.  Overall this set of alternates gives a good sense of what the Crater Crawler is made of, and also serves to highlight its limitations as a set.


















That's all I have for today folks, I trust you will all strive to stay warm in these unseasonably cold temperatures; and so for now, I bid you adieu.

Wednesday, December 18, 2013

Futuron 6885: Crater Crawler

Since this website is devoted to old Lego sets, it's high time I visit the ugly truth that hasn't been discussed yet.  Buying old Lego can be frustrating, sometimes you run into that one set that no one seems to be selling, and prices are skyrocketing, and you find one after the sale date ended on Ebay.  You scream, and keep looking, and then, you finally cave and import that item from overseas, and the condition is okay, but not what you would have paid if you had options for better condition sets. Suddenly the set is plentiful, everyone and their mother is selling the set for half of what you paid, and they're in better condition.  Welcome to being a collector, you have just experienced my summer.

If you are intent on buying every set in a long retired theme, you must: expect to pay more, or shop around for a long time, and prepare for disappointment.  On a side note, if you want a collection of Vintage Legoland sets from the 80's for close to retail value, Town is the way to go.  I've seen sealed boxes of Town Legoland sets go for retail more times than I can count.

Here from Austria is 6885 Crater Crawler a.k.a. Saturn Main Base.

Like the previously reviewed 6810 Laser Ranger, Crater Crawler contains one of the three black spacemen, circa '88 and '89.


By my estimation, Crater Crawler is the most collectible of the Futuron landmasters.  It doesn't suffer from Yellow Spaceman fatigue and tired construction courtesy of the previously reviewed 6925 Interplanetary Rover.














Nor is it a prisoner to electrics cost spillover and part shortage as shall be explored in the yet to be reviewed 6770 Lunar Transporter Patroller.

Speaking of tired construction.  Look at those big wheels in the back.  They're special, the only two in Futuron, and boy howdy are they bold and obvious.  Sure, other space themes have them, but they're still cool, and you've probably guessed by now; my childhood was spent desiring but never attaining those big wheels.

Oh you thought I was serious about the tired construction?  Whoops, ironically, I don't think I've ever seen another truck quite as wacky as Crater Crawler; at least from this era at any rate.  It's got fences around the driver for wheel wells, held on by four white megaphones, and a domed canopy with enormous wheel arches that contains a space scooter and droid.  It appears that the whole rig is driven by joystick.



Heck, even the droid is unique.  I think the toymaker was trying to recreate R2D2 with it, what do you think?

It can walk, but leaning back would require some fine tuning of the design.  The rear reveals use of multi sided SNOT cubes; always a pleasure.


The set's scooter is probably Crater Crawler's weakest element; suffering as it does from a lack of interesting features.  The center joystick (yes another one) sits over a flashing red light and thruster rockets pointing upward seem to indicate a forward tilt for short bursts over crags and craters.


It seems peripheral and can be easily compared to the simple futuron cars for sparse details.




In visual regard Interplanetary Rover's scooter far outshines Crater Crawler's.


The model has two moving functions.  The blue dome lifts up, and is studs forward, but it sits atop a construction of wheel arches that are studs backwards.  It allows for some nice visual design cues, and it's just this side of tricky so as to catch my attention.

The other moving feature is the center twist plate, this allows the Crater Crawler to turn left and right.  Due to the light front and heavy rear the motion feels a bit spastic and overly quick when pushed along.  Perhaps the designers chose a joystick as an inside joke about its odd twisting movement?  


At least in steering weight Crater Crawler feels less sure than Interplanetary Rover.  That isn't to say the design is bad, the steering seems a tad quirky as a side effect of the different wheel sizes and short wheelbase.  I quite like this funky motion...it just doesn't impress one with its surefooted weightiness...it's weightless and go-kart quick...hardly rolling like the truck it appears to be.

My favorite components in this model are the quarter dome window panes.  

These quarter dome elements first appeared in '88 in this Crater Crawler and that most venerable of space stations: 6987 Message Intercept-Base, the hideout for Futuron's antagonistic foes...BlackTron!

They would appear shortly after in another Futuron set called 6850 Auxilliary Patroller circa 1989, and in 1990, the 9355 Dacta space theme set provided a sizable selection of the trans dark blue quarter domes; 10 in fact!

Despite looking big Crater Crawler only has 98 pieces, owing its size to the 6x10 plate, tyres, wheel wells, and dome for much of its girth.  That's count em, 7 pieces.  Most of the other parts are specialized in some way.  There are only two traditional bricks in the set, both corner bricks, both under the chassis; besides that, it's got the usual high concentration of plates Futuron is fast proving to be privy too.

Additionally Crater Crawler has fences, megaphones, space walls, space chairs, control sticks.  The set comes with a space wrench and a walkie-talkie for our intrepid explorer.  This set is chock full of fun weird stuff.  The heck, what am I gonna build with this???

It's all part of the fun folks.  

But first, what are the pieces that this set brings to Futuron, and does it hide any great secrets?

First up is this dazzling blue forward facing stud brick.  You get 1 in total.  It's part of the robot.  Is it rare, no, but it is one of only 13 blue pieces in Futuron.  Ignoring of course, the blue Spacemen. 

http://media.peeron.com/ldraw/images/1/3x/4070.png

Next up we have this five stud brick also in blue, which was rare in the 80's, unused in the 90's, and actually enjoyed a renaissance in the late 00's.  There were thirteen released across 8 sets, and three of those showed up in the 80's.  It's still not particularly common, but there have been more of late than in days long past.

http://media.peeron.com/ldraw/images/1/3x/4733.png

Next we have this control stick and base, a grey and blue combination part.  The grey stick is the second most common color, out of 6 colors, of this particular lever piece, and the blue base is third rarest color variant out of nine colors.  Neither is very rare.  Futuron just has one of each, but hey, we've got us a classic grey part.

http://media.peeron.com/ldraw/images/1/3x/4592.png      http://media.peeron.com/ldraw/images/7/3x/4593.png

Next I have a bit of a conundrum.  You see, there's this set called 9355-1: DACTA Space Theme Set.  It's pretty much a Dacta Futuron set, and it contains this next piece I'm including, but as a Futuron set it's just,  well, Dacta is a classroom brand, and I don't think I want to go into detail about it; at least for now.  Suffice it to say, if like me you choose to ignore the Dacta collection, then this tunnel corner wall can be considered unique to Crater Crawler.  It's the only time this part was used as a wheel well.  You get two in white.  This is the most common color of the part, and it's pretty big.

 http://media.peeron.com/ldraw/images/15/3x/2467.png

Our next part is this blue dot, from the droid.  You get one, and it is actually pretty common otherwise.

 http://media.peeron.com/ldraw/images/1/3x/4073.png

Then we have one of this ordinary 6x10 plate in white.  Great for spreading a model's footprint out in a jiffy.  It's pretty common outside of Futuron.

http://media.peeron.com/ldraw/images/15/3x/3033.png

Here's another blue piece, a spigot.  Two spigots form the droids legs.  They give it that R2D2 look I mentioned earlier. 

http://media.peeron.com/ldraw/images/1/3x/4599.png

Next we have this printed plate in blue, again, just one is included.  It goes on the droid and it is the only printed piece included with a droid in Futuron.  The print is fairly common in Futuron on white tiles.  Blue was available in Classic Space from 1985 and was seen again in Space Police 1 and Town Police.

http://media.peeron.com/ldraw/images/1/3x/3069bp25.png

Finally we come to those two big tyres.  Magnificent aren't they.  They've got gaps in the back as a rubber saving measure, for they are indeed rubber, not plastic.  I only learned that particular detail by looking at one in person.  The part first surfaced in 75'.  It hung around until 03' before disappearing for good.  There is an alternate yellow color, which is especially rare.  For further comparison here is its hub as well, though the hub is plentiful in Futuron.

http://media.peeron.com/ldraw/images/0/3x/3634.png     http://media.peeron.com/ldraw/images/15/3x/3482.png

Before we leave off this tyre, here is the original tyre and hub design.  the Tyre was available from 72' thru 76' and actually there were some sets during the period when the molds changed, that could be had either way.  The gear was available from 70' thru 76'  It was also available in the old gear sets, such as the one seen below. 

3634b / Peeron569 / Peeron (350x339)   Set Picture

Isn't it weird how our toys have changed?  Even today the Danish toymaker is constantly changing the designs of its molds.  I find mold changes to be exceedingly frustrating, but also deeply intriguing.  What stirs with the hearts of Lego employees when they finally retire a mold, is it sadness, or pragmatism?  We grow up with the parts, and then, just when it had engraved its shape in our minds, the winds of change bring an updated version. 

That's enough of my whimsy, I spent far too much of my childhood examining mold changes with a frown, because even then, I cared about what was done with my toys down to the smallest scrap of plastic.

And now, without further ado, here is my alternate.

Asteroid Detection Station















Final Verdict: B+
Pros: Cool Space Walls/Windows, Giant Wheels, Black Spaceman, Loads of extras
Cons: Poor selection of standard pieces